[Mimedefang] OT but interesting hopefully - Spammers embrace email authentication

Kelson kelson at speed.net
Tue Sep 7 18:06:56 EDT 2004


Jeff Rife wrote:
 > They aren't quick enough.  "Throwaway domain" now means "lifetime of
 > several hours".

My logs say otherwise: 88% of messages that SpamAssassin labeled this 
week have included SURBL hits.

At least for websites, they seem to be fast enough.

Meanwhile, spammers have to buy multiple domain names every day.  I 
wonder how much overhead that adds?

> SpamAssassin has tests for bad Message-IDs, Message-IDs added by a 
> relay, "Received" headers that don't look kosher, MUA identifiers that 
> aren't right, etc.  They don't catch everything, but they often add 
> enough score to push things into the "just discard it" category.

How does that help if the message-IDs, MUA IDs, etc. all look valid?

If someone produces a spam run using software that generates its headers 
well, so it claims to be (for example) Outlook with the correct 
identifier, has the right Message ID pattern, etc., then uses a 
(relatively) obscure forged return address*, what existing mechanisms 
are there to determine that the address on the message has been forged?

* By which I mean one that doesn't show up frequently enough for 
anti-spam vendors to look for it - i.e. not AOL, Yahoo, PayPal, etc.


On a related note, for anyone who's interested, here's another article 
on SPF and reputation systems: 
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/zd/20040907/tc_zd/134784
Don't just read the headline, read the whole article.  It might give you 
a slightly different perspective on the issue.

-- 
Kelson Vibber
SpeedGate Communications <www.speed.net>



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