[Mimedefang] OS wars... [was Viruses: Bounce or Discard?]

Peter P. Benac ppbenac at emacolet.com
Mon Sep 29 16:21:03 EDT 2003


David,

    Who are you going to collect this $0.10 from?  The spoofer or the
spoofee!!!  Am I to blame if someone send a virus and uses my e-mail address
in the From: Field.  Who is to pay for the software that will be required to
calculate the per virus charges and then bill my customers?

    It seems to me demanding that a Vendor who charges $100-$300.00 per copy
of an OS make their software more secure is a much more feasible solution.

    After all if GM, Ford, or a dozen other automobile manufactures produced
a car with the same number of "BUGS" in it would it be your responsibility
to pay to have them fixed or the vendors?  If your Entertainment Center were
as buggy would it be your responsibility to pay to have it fixed or the
vendors.

    I am all for paying for new features or even fixes for problems not
under the vendors control, but Microsoft is under control of most of these
"holes" in their OS.  Just a Sun is responsible for holes in Solaris, HP is
responsible for HP-UX and IBM for AIX.   Tell me why Unix can have less
holes then M$. Is it because M$ doesn't really care to close up the holes
without boosting their Monopoly.  M$ has already announced that they can
bottle up their OS if they are allowed to make tighter integration.  I hear
people stated they are easy targets because they are in the forefront.  OK,
Cisco is too and Cisco takes great pains to bottle up IOS and CatOS.
Security holes are usually found internally and of those found externally
they are usually fixed long before the public is aware they exist.

    I have used Outlook for years and I continue to use Windows because of
it and a couple of other software packages I need to use.  M$ needs to be
held accountable just as much as the virus makers need to be tracked down
and .....

   Stop blaming the masses and blame who is really at fault. Educate your
users most of them are willing to learn. The ones that aren't are probably
the damn script kiddies anyway or they work for Microsoft.

Regards,
Pete
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: mimedefang-admin at lists.roaringpenguin.com 
> [mailto:mimedefang-admin at lists.roaringpenguin.com] On Behalf 
> Of David F. Skoll
> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 15:37
> To: mimedefang at lists.roaringpenguin.com
> Subject: Re: [Mimedefang] OS wars... [was Viruses: Bounce or Discard?]
> 
> 
> On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Rob MacGregor wrote:
> 
> > I use Microsoft for both my desktop and my email package.
> 
> That's fine.
> 
> But don't you think it's fair that *you* pay for viruses your 
> machine sends?  I assume you're more clueful than average, 
> and keep your system patched and use good anti-virus 
> technologies, so any 10cents/virus charge probably wouldn't 
> cost you anything anyway.
> 
> > I do so because  this combination supports the functionality I 
> > want/need.
> 
> Again, I have no problem with that.  I just feel that users 
> of such software should pay the *true economic cost* of the 
> software rather than being subsidized by the rest of the Internet.
> 
> > Give people a positive reason for moving to other software and they 
> > will.
> 
> I believe that charging the true price for software (rather 
> than an artificially-cheap price) is only fair.  If this 
> makes people move to other software, then that's fine -- it's 
> a purely economic decision based on an undistorted market.  
> Currently, the market is horribly distorted as providers 
> everywhere spend money subsidizing the users of insecure software.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> David.
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